MyDD :: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:47:20 PM EST
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Re: Okay so it's Clark or Kaine (none / 0)

Not Clark, either. He will be in Milan during the convention.
Didn't you see all the concern about Clark being "disinvited" to the convention yesterday at DKos?

"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC

by skohayes on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 09:06:44 AM EST
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Could be a red herring (none / 0)

to throw us off the trail.

by GFORD on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 06:30:14 PM EST
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Biden has an excellent record on criminal justice (none / 0)

by ttjackson on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:07:52 PM EST
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Busy baking cookie? (1.33 / 3)

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:45:35 PM EST

sorry I misread that (1.50 / 2)

I thought you asked "what will be his excuse for not selecting Hillary."

After all, that's probably the first question he will be asked.

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:50:08 PM EST
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Gawd, I hope not (2.00 / 3)

maturity is overrated and unfunny.

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:01:32 PM EST
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I'll answer your question. (none / 0)

No, Biden doesn't undermine Obama's message.
His message is not that politicians are bad--it's that getting stuck where we are and not getting things done is bad.

What are the main causes of getting stuck?

--cynicism (politicians and government can't be trusted, they're all corrupt, and fake, y'all are naive to even try, politicians and government aren't really about making things better--they're about gettin' what they can, negative/divisive politics works best, fight fire with fire, all the same, kidding yourself if you think otherwise)

--learned helplessness (what i do won't make a difference, politicians/government will never care about and respond to me, I'm better off just giving up and letting it go)

Most of the problem with Clinton is not of her making; there is a VRWC out to oppose her and anything she does. She's a lightning rod and her mere presence is a tool of cynics on the right who would use her to stir up opposition against whatever she's involved in.

On top of that, her campaign did some things that were cynical or promoted cynicism and that were in direct opposition to Obama's effort to do something about learned helplessness at the grass roots level (her mocking rhetoric about mere words and inspiration and excitement). She didn't simply say it wasn't enough; she mocked it.

Biden and most of the other candidates mostly avoided those kinds of attacks. And Biden certainly isn't a lightning rod.

What that adds up to, IMO, is that it's reasonable to make a judgement call and conclude that there's a difference between Clinton and Biden in terms of being able to work them into the campaign. Clinton is harder and trickier; Biden is pretty easy.

by chicago jeff on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 09:28:48 AM EST
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If Obama is going to select based on experience (none / 0)

Biden is a very good choice. He has a lot more experience than Clinton who has only been in the Senate for 8 years. Clark hasn't got legislative experience but he has the military command experience. Either one works for me.

by GFORD on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 06:25:52 PM EST
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it's *sow* not *sew* (1.75 / 4)

D'oh!

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:04:18 PM EST
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Re: So you decided on sexist joke as a reply (none / 0)

There you go making me laugh again.

"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."

by vcalzone on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 09:38:56 PM EST
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ah, no sense of humor (1.50 / 2)

that's her quote. Gawd, it's not like I made it up.

"I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was to fulfill my profession which I entered before my husband was in public life," 1992.

I'm only quoting her. I didn't bring up cookies, she did. And to this day, 2008, Hillary still jokes about that line. Too bad her supporters don't share her sense of humor.

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:11:24 PM EST
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Re: So you decided on sexist joke as a reply (none / 0)

You're right - was that why you were banned in your incarnation as "catfish"?

by rfahey22 on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:56:30 PM EST
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As opposed to CATFISH2 (none / 0)

a known and banned troll who came back with GATO PESCADO within hours. Clever, hunh?

by ReillyDiefenbach on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 03:26:50 PM EST
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Re: Busy baking cookie? (2.00 / 0)

He seems to mean you belong in the kitchen and should stay there? Just the other day it was clark, cause he chose clark's message as the title of something, but then it wasn't. What will Al do when he choses Hillary and shows he trusts her and is sorry he smeared her during that retro primary. He wants his message of unity to not be laughed at in the GE, he wants to show that he can do it not just claim to. Then Al can make the cookies or get on board the unity train, the track runs two ways.

by anna shane on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:51:11 PM EST
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what makes you think it would be Hillary? (2.00 / 2)

is there any evidence?

is there any indication?

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:53:43 PM EST
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Re: what makes you think it woul (2.00 / 0)

he's on holiday while plans are going on for the convention and she's involved in those plans? That does indicate a very high level of cooperation. His numbers are tanking and some party members are more vocal about what they want him to do. He was supposed to get more issue oriented after she conceded and he was supposed to get a bump from her leaving. My only indication is that I think Barack isn't eager to lose, and since his message is consensus, and it was a virtual tie, seems to me like he wants Bill Clinton to announce her, and that's why he's going to text it to you guys first. He could still lose in Denver if the DNC decides he can't win the GE, and he has little time between now and the GE to prove that he can. So, it's logic. he polls better with her, and last time her support was polled, she beat both of them.

Also, he's read by now that Atlantic Monthly email story, so he knows that Hillary was protecting his GE chances in her run against him, if he ever believed what he said about her, he no longer can.

by anna shane on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:44:04 PM EST
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so there's no evidence (2.00 / 2)

I'm not saying he won't pick Hillary.

I'm not saying he shouldn't pick Hillary.

I offered no judgment.

But I just don't see any evidence.

And please, if you think someone else could win the nomination, well, Hillary disagrees.

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:57:22 PM EST
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Re: so there's no evidence (2.00 / 0)

not nomination, the primary is over, the GE.

by anna shane on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 09:03:52 PM EST
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Re: so there's no evidence (2.00 / 0)

excuse me, I wasn't clear about the denver point. Barack can be pressured to invite Hillary, although I don't think he'll need pressure, because the DNC could tell him he must pick her or risk an open vote in Denver. Presumably the DNC wants a GE win, and the candidate is supposed to listen to them, at least until the nom is a done deal. It was another reason why Hillary may be the vp choice, even if Barack didn't want her, but that's not my strongest argument, which is that he clearly does not fear her and she's clearly working with him.

by anna shane on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 09:10:06 PM EST
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Hillary will not be VP (none / 0)

The Clintons will never allow themselves to be vetted. The Obama camp has not even asked them for anything to do with vetting for the VP position. Obama is all about no drama. The Clintons, on the other hand, are all about drama and living on the edge. Good thing she will not be on the ticket.

by ReillyDiefenbach on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 03:33:49 PM EST
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I think you are dead wrong (none / 0)

Kerry was the first candidate since McGovern to get no bounce from his convention. Part of the reason was the lack of drame at the convention - in part a result of having named his nominee so early. The data behind this arguement I have sumarized here:
http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?dia ryId=7531

My guess is the weekend before the convention is when he/she will be named.

And please, god, with the electoral college closing substantially, take another look at the choices from Ohio.

by fladem on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 12:34:35 AM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (none / 0)

Biden will be traveling to and possibly from Georgia the next 48 hours, depending on his length of stay.

by Liberty on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:46:12 PM EST

So due Biden is due back on Tuesday? (2.00 / 2)

That would be a good date.

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:51:00 PM EST
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Re: It's going to be Clark (2.00 / 0)

why would he want to? He wants the VP to be no where near Denver, not reason to show? That sounds weird. It'll be Hillary, she's running things for him while he's on holiday. He means the unity message, it isn't just empty words. Only HIlary won the popular vote, so only she can show that his consensus message is real.

by anna shane on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:53:13 PM EST

Re: Because it's O's brilliant strategery (2.00 / 0)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

by Liberty on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 07:55:59 PM EST
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Hillary hasn't been very successful with (2.00 / 1)

her unity message. Think PUMA.

by GFORD on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 06:31:27 PM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (2.00 / 1)

I too believe it is Biden. He is traveling to Georgia, and he just wrote an article on the conflict in the FT recently. Also, Biden was the one who represented Obama in Nevada with the National Firefighters Union. There have been numerous signs that it is Biden. He is the perfect VP for Obama. He is catholic, knowledgeable in foreign affairs. He is the older statesman who the country will feel very secure with. Obama and Biden will be a great match.

by Spanky on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:17:36 PM EST

You'd think... (2.00 / 0)

if he was that god damn fabulous, he might have been able to make it through the New Hampshire primary before dropping out.

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:20:58 PM EST
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Re: You'd think... (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, because it would be trememdously unfortunate to continue soliciting donations from supports when there's virtually no chance of winning, or (gasp) mathematically eliminated.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:48:02 PM EST
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Re: You'd think... (2.00 / 1)

A very good candidate was eliminated early in the primaries?

How uncommon...

It's not as if the campaign featured some historic candidacies or other strong contenders...

The people he lost to? complete nobodies!

Right... it's a shocker how he could have lost that one...

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:58:35 PM EST
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Re: You'd think... (2.00 / 1)

Isn't that what they said about Howard Dean?

"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC

by skohayes on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 09:08:22 AM EST
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Would be intruigining (2.00 / 2)

for him to bash Hillary for an entire year for being a "Washington Insider" and then select someone who's been a "Washington Insider" longer than she has!

OH THE IRONY!

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:19:00 PM EST

but she was inside the WH (2.00 / 2)

... that is a big difference.

the "two for the price of one," thing.

after all, Clinton ran as an outsider, promoting change in 1992, and selecting insider Gore only helped him.

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:28:35 PM EST
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I'm not the one trashing "insiders" (2.00 / 1)

Joe Biden has been around Washington much longer than Hillary Clinton has, Al. Don't play dumb. Obama has been bashing "the old way of politics" the entire campaign, and Joe Biden embodies the "old way of politics".

I think this was a mistake, because he should have known that he would need an insider to win the election, some type of attack dog, that way people trust him. Now, when he picks one (notice how all the names left for consideration are insiders?), the McCain campaign and MSM will pick up on the meme that he's just as much of an "insider" as everyone else.

I don't have a problem with "insider" politics, and I don't have a problem with knee capping people to win elections. But the main reason that Obamanauts supported Barack is because he was against the "old Washington games". So what gives, if he picks Reed, Biden, Bayh, etc?

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 08:54:14 PM EST
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Re: I'm not the one trashing "insiders" (2.00 / 3)

Biden has the lowest wealth of any Senator -- a good indication that he hasn't gotten so enmeshed in Washington that he personally benefited from being there.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 09:24:50 PM EST
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Re: I'm not the one trashing "insiders" (2.00 / 2)

Biden takes the train to DC and back from his home in Delaware for gods saked.

by Spanky on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 09:52:28 PM EST
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Re: I'm not the one trashing "insiders" (none / 0)

so now you are mad at obamanauts because you think they dont know politics? do you also think tom delay is really dead?

by KLRinLA on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 01:33:57 AM EST
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Re: I'm not the one trashing "insiders" (none / 0)

He was on the TV this Sunday, saying that we shouldn't be engaging in military adventurism.

So I conclude Tom DeLay is indeed dead, and that was a clever robot constructed in his image by aliens.

"There are two kinds of statistics: the kind you look up and the kind you make up" --Rex Stout

by LIsoundview on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 06:23:52 PM EST
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Re: I'm not the one trashing "insiders" (none / 0)

i actually meant ken lay, but I appreciate your above analysis on delay, and it seems spot on

by KLRinLA on Mon Aug 18, 2008 at 02:18:28 AM EST
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Biden and Obama see eye to eye (none / 0)

with regard to special interests and lobbyists. Clinton, not so much. Biden has been in Washington a long time but he has not used it to feather his own nest.

by GFORD on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 06:35:03 PM EST
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Re: Would be intruigining (none / 0)

Yeah It is ironic... but I'd rather have Biden than Bayh or Kaine.

Still hoping all the Clark convention stuff is a ruse... make sure Clark isn't picked the convention people by making them think you are pissed about his comments and then pick him and slot him.

http://www.imvotingrepublican.com/ McCain Sucks!

by yitbos96bb on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 10:20:06 PM EST
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I think it will be Edwards. (2.00 / 0)

Obama wants to add a little life to the campaign.

by Bush Bites on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:00:53 PM EST

Now that would be witty. (none / 0)

liv'n things up, wouldn't it

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:21:01 PM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (2.00 / 0)

Joe Biden would be quite effective in the single debate but that's about it. How can Obama (Mr. Change) pick someone like Biden when the main objection to Hillary was that she doesn't jibe with the famous "change message" the media loves to shove down our throats.

by handsomegent on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:07:10 PM EST

Hillary, Hillary, Hillary (2.00 / 3)

Marsha, Marsha, Marsha.

What does Hillary got to do with anything?

I didn't even bring her up in any way, shape, or form.

her supporters have it's a one track mind, and try to tie her to everything.

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:20:07 PM EST
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Here is an excuse! (none / 0)

He never meant any thing he said. It is all campaign talk. For an Obamanaut like me it is very logical.

You may not agree with What I say but don't forget I am a Democrat

by indydem99 on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 06:14:34 AM EST
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You misinterpret the Change that Obama (none / 0)

is calling for. He's calling for the end of big money lobbyists and special interests controlling our government. Clinton does not agree with Obama regarding lobbyists and she said so in the debates.

by GFORD on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 06:37:21 PM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (2.00 / 4)

Biden is auditioning for Sec of State, not VP, in going to Georgia.

by Jerome Armstrong on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:16:22 PM EST

but yet, no convention speaking spot. (none / 0)

as you've noted, the contenders are those who don't have a speaking lot at the convention.

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:23:03 PM EST
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Re: but yet, no convention speaking spot. (none / 0)

Biden does have a speaking slot, on Wednesday; see http://www.demconwatchblog.com/2008/08/c onvention-speakers-and-agenda.html.

On the other hand, I agree with those who say that this doesn't mean anything; those scheduling speakers probably have no idea who the VP nominee will be. Plus, Wednesday is the same night the VP nominee is set to speak.

On the other other hand, Kaine is still conspicuously absent from the schedule.

by slvn on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 11:49:35 AM EST
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Re: but yet, no convention speaking spot. (none / 0)

ha ha, Al reaches for his shoe...

by Jerome Armstrong on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 07:31:26 PM EST
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btw, digya ever eat your shoe? (1.66 / 6)

Be a man of you word, Jerome.

by Al Rodgers on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:26:52 PM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (2.00 / 1)

Biden's probably better than Evan Bayh, but he's got some issues as well. Here's a (partial) list:

1. Voted for the Iraq War, which would contradict Obama's "judgment over experience" argument. (Still, at least he didn't co-chair the neocon Committee for the Liberation of Iraq, as Evan Bayh did.)

2. Plagiarism, plagiarism, plagiarism. With Biden as veep, you're going to be hearing that word A LOT in the media. Along with the names "Neil Kinnock" and "Deval Patrick". Count on it.

3. Change. Biden may reassure some voters, but he ain't change. Very few politicians have spent as much time in D.C. as he has. That means there are lots and lots and lots of votes that Biden cast over the years that could be embarrassing to Obama.

4. God I hate to bring it up, but does Biden have hair plugs? I think he does, but I'm not 100% sure. If this becomes common knowledge, and Biden becomes the butt of jokes on Leno or Letterman, it's a problem.

5. The age difference between Obama and Biden is pretty large and the optics could resemble Dukakis-Bentsen in 1988--which is not what you want your ticket compared to at all.

Having said all this, with this trip to Georgia Biden's stock is rising and the plagiarism stuff is pretty old news. The positives could outweigh the negatives enough to make the pick worthwhile.

by Will Graham on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 10:56:28 PM EST

Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (2.00 / 1)

Actually while Biden has voted for the Iraq War he's long been one of the better voices against the war and he's also been the most effective defender and reinforcer for Obama's overal foreign policy. It could also explain to the public why Obama is topping the bill and Biden playing second fiddle. Obama's is ther for making the judgement calls, biden is there to offer his support in implementing those.

Besides being old news, the plagiarism accusations have long been debunked. The media won't play them up again.

The public cares less about specific policy votes from the VP candidate as the VP doesn't shape policy. And surprisingly Biden fits Obama's theme of change very well. Biden and Obama's views on foreign policy have been aligned this entire cycle and as Obama's domestic change message is primarily post partisanship and a less politicized washington. Biden's moderate profile combined with a history of working across the aisle would fit that narrative.

As for the age difference, if you look at the picture neither looks out of place. The've got a similar build and posture, they don't clash. That's more far important.

and... ehm... possible hair plugs would change votes?

...

really?

"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman

by Ernst on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 11:26:32 PM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (none / 0)

and... ehm... possible hair plugs would change votes?

Yeah I probably shouldn't have mentioned it.

Just struck me as the type of thing the GOP would use to turn him into a butt of jokes and thus diminish any other qualities he brings to the table. That's basically their M.O.

by Will Graham on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 12:00:30 AM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (none / 0)

Yeah, we should never pick a candidate based on how many jokes the RW media can come up with.
Holy crap, could you be just a little more shallow?
Thank goodness the rest of the Democratic party doesn't think like you do or we never would have seen Hillary Clinton running for president.

"Who are you for? That is the wrong question. It should be who is for you?" HRC

by skohayes on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 09:15:27 AM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (none / 0)

Has Biden admitted that he was wrong in his original vote on Iraq? If so, or if he is willing to admit it now,I think it might be a big plus to have him going around saying "look, I have all this experience and I think I'm a pretty smart guy, but Barack's the one who made the right call."

On plagiarism (and also hair plugs, if he has them), I think Biden's self-deprecating humor would help a lot. I remember when he came on the Daily Show during the 2004 convention, when a lot of speakers were making much of their humble roots, and he said "I tried that; it didn't work!" It was a reference to the Kinnock plagiarism, and it was more than disarming.

On "change," i don't see why Obama can't say "look--I'm an outsider and I have the vision, but I can make more change if I work with insiders who can help me with the mechanics of government." It has the advantage of being true.

by slvn on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 10:29:20 AM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (none / 0)

Re hair plugs:

Actually he has a scar covered up from his brain aneurysm operation. Not funny. So there won't be jokes.

Re plagiarism:

If it's no problem for Obama re Patrick, it's no problem for Biden re Kinnock, especially since Biden mentioned Kinnock as his source in every speech but one, and in any case, the language is similar, not identical.

His lack of wealth is a real plus; proof positive of being relatively uncorruptible.

"There are two kinds of statistics: the kind you look up and the kind you make up" --Rex Stout

by LIsoundview on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 06:27:30 PM EST
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I think Obama's gonna wait (2.00 / 1)

until all the talk about Michael Phelps dies down, as he will be the talk of the week. Plus, sprinting is getting under way, so my guess is it will be once all the popular events are over, and esquestrian is underway. I'm also not gonna be surprised if the VP gets picked at the convention. Then, no one can accuse Obama of snubbing Hillary, if he leaves it up to the delegates. Biden would be a bad choice. He adds little to the ticket, politically, and electorally. Unlike Hillary, he doesn't have a following in OH, FL or PA, or 18 million guaranteed voters.

by Lakrosse on Sat Aug 16, 2008 at 11:41:10 PM EST

But Hillary lost her home state (1.25 / 4)

it doesn't bode well if Hillary could win her home state.

by Al Rodgers on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 12:20:25 AM EST
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what the hell are you talking about? (2.00 / 2)

she won Arkansas and won New York. And if you're gonna give me this "Illinois" shit, she not only hasn't lived there for a while, she doesn't represent it like Barack Obama does.

by Lakrosse on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 01:28:37 AM EST
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Re: I think Obama's gonna wait (none / 0)

I think Biden would, in fact, help in Pennsylvania, since he was born in Scranton and since Delaware shares a media market with the Philadelphia area (not that Obama needs help in Philadelphia, but I assume that some of the more purple suburbs are part of the same market).

by slvn on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 10:14:28 AM EST
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Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (2.00 / 1)

Whoever it is, it won't be done until after the olympics.

The direct use of force is such a poor solution to any problem, it is generally employed only by small children and large nations. -- David Friedman

by pollbuster on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 12:22:19 AM EST

Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (none / 0)

I love the speculation... just like children trying to peek at their Christmas presents. While I do agree Edwards could bring "renewed energy" to the ticket, I think the choice would drive supporters away. Joe Biden as Secretary of State would be a great improvement over the ineffective Condi Rice.

by tweedlegram on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 01:47:27 AM EST

Re: Biden VEEP Announcement Imminent (none / 0)

Perhaps Bill Richardson should be considered for the VEEP spot? He does have experience in foreign affairs; has dealt with budgets and has a fair grasp of economics. He seems to have the respect of Republicans and Democrats so he could be a uniter and an instrument of change.

by tweedlegram on Sun Aug 17, 2008 at 01:53:41 AM EST

I believe Richardson has some skeletans (none / 0)

in his closet with regard to his treatment of women.

Biden has respect from moderates and independents and he brings in people who are nervous about electing someone who has so little Washington experience. I was a Biden supporter for awhile in the primary and my republican family had nothing but good things to say about him. They don't like McCain but are a little nervous about Obama. Biden would definitely seal the deal for them.